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Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:17 am

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Dunno about you guys, but I'm NOT okay with this.
I revoked all his admin until you guys get this figured out.
I don't want this discussed outside of the admin section.


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Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:18 am

Just for reference, that is a Runescape auto-miner.
It's the Runescape equivalent of hacks.

Not only is this blatantly illegitimate and a ToS violation, but it will make him fail the WOGL AC, which will be hugely bad rep.
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Post by MarioBob on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:34 am

We're not kicking him are we? I think we should just tell him to get rid of it.

I'll gladly take this up with him personally, since we're close friends.

This is going to sound kind of stupid, but I'm really sure within the next two weeks I can grab a external hard drive, if not earlier (I can explain further, $50 can get me like 500GB one correct?) I counted up the things I want to save and they are on my desktop. If you care about it so much, then I guess I'll do it.
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Post by MarioBob on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:35 am

I also really want to hear what Dallas says first before we do anything rash.
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Post by MarioBob on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:55 am

I don't really understand Scrimspot or MvNAC. Does it literally scan through someone's entire registry to find hacks? Dontea told us that he used to hack on CA, so if that stuff is still on that registry, he could get banned?

It all seems very...impractical.

And am I good with my plan? I have to save a lot of stuff, and I know I can get an external hard drive in the near future. But I still don't believe that an Anti Cheat scans your registry, and you can't do WOGL if you've done something like that in your entire life.
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Re: AC Log

Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:05 am

I'm getting fed up with Dontea.

He's a great leader, he can handle div admin, but I'm not letting him get off with cheating.

And yes, the WOGL AC would scan registry, I assume.

I assume because ScrimSpot has been around longer than MvNAC, and MvNAC scans registry.
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Post by MarioBob on Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:21 am

EDIT: I know I should really wait for what Dallas has to stay, but I can't just stand by and let a friend of mine and myself be pushed around like this.

Can you provide sufficient proof that both ScrimSpot and MvNAC scan through someone's registry (which would take a normal human two weeks) and would be able to dig deep enough to find and type of hacking program, even after uninstalled and all traces of it deleted?

Because I'm calling huge BS that a minute or two on an AC could scan and analyze someone's entire registry and at the same time be able to report back "illegitimate programs".

If proof of this cannot be supplied, then I vote that we tell Dontea about what he did wrong, shove the CoC into the clans face even more, give Dontea his full admin rights back, and forget about all this.

For real Ion, you're taking this far too serious than it has to be. Your philosophy is "Oh, I used a cheat code on Pokemon, well I don't like people cheating, you're kicked from the clan because of how you cheated outside of Combat Arms, which is ironically our biggest focus at the moment".

TL:DR (to anyone but Ion).

A.) I don't believe that an AC can scan someone's entire registry, and I want to see proof if it does.

B.) Someone shouldn't be totally kicked from the clan for what they did off of CA, especially if it's their first offense. If it interferes with our rep, the person should be told of this AND THEN kicked if the person takes not action.
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Post by MarioBob on Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:51 am

Would you be opposed to doing this on vent? I think there is too many points we're hitting on and we're both getting nowhere.
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Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:23 am

What I think about all this is, It's Fking runescape, who cares, but then dontea told me for having them he may get banned from wogl, so i told him to get rid of it, and he has, for the whole reformatting because of his "hacks" for CA was a long time ago and he reformatted after he did it, so thats clear.

Now lets not get rash here on who's leaving, who's kicking and ect. Dontea is a cool guy, but ion the way you handled the situation was pretty inexcusable, kicking someone from vent, and not telling the reason why, other than trying direct confrontation is not how i want you to handle these things, hear the person out, after talking with dontea i can assure you im not going to kick him from the clan.

Any other questions feel free to post here asking them.

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Re: AC Log

Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:46 am

I still stand by how it was handled.

He was not kicked from Vent, his admin was simply removed until we could discuss it.

He even stated he had read the CoC, which clearly says no hacking on any game, and then proceeded to break it.

I disagree with how lightly this is being taken.

I understand you like Dontea, so do I, but this has been happening more and more frequently.

If you don't set the line somewhere, you'll have a clan full of OPKers.
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Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:27 pm

he didn't recently D/l these hacks, they were from a year or so ago, he also probobly didn't assume that Runescape bots are w/e. either way, this is where i stand, he got rid of them already and i explained to him about the situation, problem ended.
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Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:27 pm

Also i demand you and dante talk it out.
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Re: AC Log

Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:25 pm

Give him back his Vent admin, since I can't do that from my phone, and won't be home soon.

I'll give a forum back now.

I'm still extremely disappointed in how lightly this is all being taken.

Within the course of one week we've had eRyth, Joe iNag, and Dontea all blatantly break the ToS and CoC.

You're free to disagree, but this, to me, looks like a time bomb.

If the public could see this thread alone, we would lose our CBL affiliation, most of our other affiliates, all respect from Kalika, and the CA community at large.

I don't think you all apprehend how respected we are as a clan right now; I don't want all that effort wasted on a few people who had a moment without self-control.
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Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:42 pm

alright ill give it back, and tbh we already resolved the joe thing, hes going to reformat, dont't know why this is being brought up, i fixe dit, and dontea was caught with "runescape" hacks and runescape is sht anyways, its with jimmy and his pokemon hacks, i don't mind it both games aren't so great, since we focus on NEXON games and dealing with nexon, eryth dealt with nexon, selling an account, and iNag dealt with a site that deals with nexon.

Also this is meant to be a GAMING GROUP not a group of business.
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Post by MvN-Dontea on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:57 pm

i'd just like to state that i havent been using these runescape "hacks" while ive been in this clan besides the last 2 days and i have had them downloaded before i even started playing CA and hardly even play that game anymore i would like to confirm i have deleted them and how just because i botted on a online browser game a year ago doesn't make me this opking ca hacking lunatic like you claim people will become if they hack other games. on top of that i highly doubt Dallas wouldn't kick someone from the clan who had hacks on their computer for a game that the clan plays i can keep you rest assured that if the clan played RS i would have realized not to have them and would have deleted them sooner. Also for the Record ion you need to Chill out about this hacking thing and you want whats best for the clan yet you say you don't care if me and joe leave who are two of the most active players/cwer's in the clan i think it would impact it a whole lot more then ud think so i realize you want a clean clan which i completely understand but still think about after affects.
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Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:12 pm

@Dallas: Nexon is a business, Jagex is a business, Nintendo is a business, Forumotion, Wix, Ventrilo, Typefrag, and TK Domains are all businesses.

None of these are required to provide us with services, especially since most are free.

It's easier and better to just comply, than to lose priveledges.

@Dontea: You need to stop wall-of-texting. My message to Dallas applies to you too though.
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Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:33 pm

we can comply but when does runescape hacks have against there ToS? either way were not a business.
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Re: AC Log

Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:02 pm

Read the Runecape ToS, it clearly states no botting.
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Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:05 pm

RUNESCAPE IS SHIT. really its a web browser game.
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Post by MvN-Ion on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:24 pm

http://forums.thecbl.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=16590

And I believe Dontea already spoke to you about half of the reason I'm on-edge.

With that in mind, 2+ week break.

It will probably end up longer.
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Post by MarioBob on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:55 pm

Can Ion still read this?
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Re: AC Log

Post by Yuki on Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:07 pm

yea
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Post by MvN-Jack on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:55 pm

if we knew of prior hacks from dontea and he was still made a clan admin and gets to stay in this clan admin or not then ill have to put in a resignation because as cbl staff its my duty to leave such a clan im sorry but its dontea or me that goes.

@yuki runescape cracks down on its hackers better then nexon

@mario you would be suprised because if you look at the program that cbl runs it takes anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours to scan someones computer and it finds everything even if you had it on your computer for a second it will find it

@ion i understand what you did and i back it up but him completely reinstalling his os and just forgetting about this i wont deal with ill leave the clan sorry if you did just give me clan admin but i wont deal with it.
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Post by MvN-Jack on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:58 pm

even an auto typer for runescape is a big no no for cbl even if its one of the smallest offences at runescapes ToS auto bots are one of the biggest things that ruin the game its like all hacks combined in one
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Post by MvN-Dontea on Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:15 pm

CBL over the clan really jack? what is more important to you?
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